Da*n I got fooled once again
I hope this will be the last time I got scammed. I already learn many experience with all those scammer. This is my newest real personal story about fraud domain appraisal. I know this happen because I’m not doing research first. For everyone please do research first before you do something. It’s will really help you to stop get scammed by many f*cking scammer out there.
So it began, *lol* One day I got email from someone I don’t know (hammond@thenamepros.com, other report he was using another email address but words completely almost same, the good news IP always same all coming from 213.140.225.228) He send mail to me and asking how much I sell my domain name (ahooy.net, actually I listed it for testing if someone interest on that domain name). This email coming after I list my domain name on SEDO, that’s why I give title with this words “Target SEDO User“. Of course I interest and reply that email, and then he started to foolish me “In order to successful transaction with him, I must buy certificate domain appraisal on website he want (this website own by him).
So I just trust this scammer without research and start to buy certificate domain appraisal on www.bestdomainexperts.com (this site owned by those scammer) After I pay and they send to me a FAKE result I try to contact this guy again. He started to acting like really interesting to buy my domain name and try to foolish me again to using www.bestdomainexperts.com service (listing) I started to smell something wrong in here, I do research on google and found out this guy is scam lot of people on there, look at this URL: http://www.namepros.com/639974-another-scam-letter-elite-investment-group-4.html
After found this page, I try to manipulate this scammer to reveal some information but no luck, all email just trash words talking blablabla.. I open dispute on paypal (now escalate to claim) and email SWREG about this scammer. I really want to puch this guy on his face till he die if he in front of me *lol* Because this case I’AM OFFICIALY CLOSED ALL BUSINESS, OFFER, PARTNERSHIP, AND FRIENDSHIP REQUEST FROM NIGERIA AND RUSSIAN.
Next, You can see all screenshot of this conversation (ALL REAL, I GUARANTEE WITHIN MY LIFE) :
NOTE:
My goal is not this $81.xx but I want to jailed this frauders, I can simply earn more than $81.xx in one day. This is all about reputation not about money.
This is my proof about this guy is one person, he’s frauder, he’s scammer, don’t trust his words, everything he say just TRASH.
I use two email address on this conversation, ist***o[at]gmail.com (me) and ratna*****[at]gmail.com (my sister). Scammer using two email address hammond@thenamepros.com and info@namesaleshop.com, but all coming from same IP 213.140.225.228.
Please don’t laugh when you read this stupid conversation
1. Scammer start’s to refer me to website he want.
2. He keep promoting his own website to foolish me.
3. Keep trying….
4. I started to ignored this scammer.
5. He try to foolish SWREG support using my bad country fraud in the past.
6. I laughing when he say I’m hammond@thenamepros.com, my proof shows everything.
7. Try to foolish me again to write positive about his fraud company so he will get more victims *lol*
8. I try to dig this scammer information.
9. This scammers don’t know my goal.
10. I lost my patience.
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July 1st, 2010 at 12:58 AM
Some great information that all my readers will need to read. Will pass on this info. cheers will pop bach asap to check for updates
July 1st, 2010 at 9:57 PM
I win this case and get my refund, SWREG is reputable company but surely it’s hard to make them believe us if we don’t call them directly or sending proof via fax.
July 13th, 2010 at 10:10 AM
The business brokerages network will give you access to a large pool of individuals who’ve the information about companies for sale and buyers or investors searching for any organization venture. By producing good use in the info you have, you may be cutting a offer and make a handsome profit out of the transactions.
December 10th, 2010 at 1:11 PM
Thank you for your site! I just got almost EXACTLY the same letter when I just listed on Sedo.com. Offered me $8000.00 and tried to steer me to domain appraisal.
Here is the email address they sent from:
venturi@name-investors.com
Add that to your list of scam domains. NAME-INVESTORS.COM IS A SCAM!
You saved my site. Thank you.
December 10th, 2010 at 11:09 PM
I’m happy this article save your money Michael. They never stop, maybe each day they bought new domain to cheat more people. To know if they same person is looking from their procedure, its always same, they will drive you for domain appraisal.
December 15th, 2010 at 6:43 AM
Thanks a lot istanto for sharing your experience. I got offer also from the same email and company but i did smell something fishy about it.
@Michael
the scammer offered the same price for me. Maybe he thought i’d buy it. LoL.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:00 AM
Thank you for this post. I may have fallen for this too. Here is the email I received;
Hello,
I’m reaching out on behalf of Dennis Thompson who is interested in this domain. Please email us your price.
He is also looking for easy-to-remember names with different extensions for his online businesses.
If you have other names for sale please email us your list with prices.
Can we get your answer this week if possible?
Regards,
Charles Venturi
Sales Executive
Name Investors Union LLC
December 21st, 2010 at 3:11 AM
Thank you for this post. I almost fell for this scam. The person who contacted me was thomas-steinmeyer@name-business.com and said he had a client that was interested in my domain that I was selling on SEDO. The buyers name was Nakagami and he had posted a question at this blog http://www.thenamepros.com/Archive/201754396.htm
The conversation basically slams Afternic and makes it seem like everyone responding to his request suggests http://www.CertifiedDomainValue.com
I got really suspicious when I told him I was going to get an appraisal through SEDO. He slammed them and said I was taking a big risk not using a manual valuation.
Thank you for saving me money.
December 25th, 2010 at 1:38 AM
thank for the info guys ..
I just landed here from google.. searching for “thomas-steinmeyer@name-business.com”
he also asked me that one of his client is interested in my domain..
I have replied to his email by placing my quote..
So.. now according to you he will ask me for domain appraisal ??
December 25th, 2010 at 2:53 PM
If he start to directed you into domain appraisal don’t do it. Ask him to pay 50% first of his price offers or at least more than that appraisal service then you can buy appraisal service. If this buyer serious he will pay everything if not you know what will happen next.
December 27th, 2010 at 4:33 AM
hi, thank for this post, i am new here at domain name
i have trademark domain name and this guy ask me to sell my domain to him. The person who contacted me was thomas-steinmeyer@name-business.com. he offer me high price domain name $ 19.000 USD…. wow!!!!
January 6th, 2011 at 1:33 PM
Don’t Fall for this appraisal SCAM !
Still going into 2011! Got the same crap – using “thenamepros.com” and forwards to: “webhostingforum.com”
I have listed on SEDO and Afternic sites, so I guess he/they targets them both…? (Probably got my email searching thru GoDaddy whois, which is not private.)
This is what I got back:
From: Lawrence Trienekens, domain broker
Domain Business Brokerage Inc.
trienekens@name-investors.com
Can you accept 12,000 usd?
Our client has a 20,000 usd budget for several names. Have you had your domain names evaluated by certified valuation experts in the past? Even if your domain has no web site it’s possible to appraise it. Without a valuation certificate our client cannot be sure in the sale price. Moreover, our accountant and tax services always ask for valaution certificates. On the other side, it’s very important for him in terms of reselling too. Of course, we must engage an independent valuation company with a real manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources our client trust. We don’t have certified experts in domain valuations and use independent reliable companies for appraisals.
To avoid mistakes we asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
http://www.thenamepros.com/Archive/305624908.htm
If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly..
After you send us the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we’ll continue the process. Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.
What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?
Hope we can come to an agreement fast.
January 6th, 2011 at 8:41 PM
@Zyzzle: That’s him, almost all victims reports template email like that.